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	<title>Comments on: Noam Chomsky, Intellectual Elitism, Po-Mo Gibberish, More Attacks on Deconstruction, and Bad Writing Revisited</title>
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		<title>By: Biblioklept</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 15:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Ed,
I wrote this post when I was in grad school, almost five years ago. I now teach composition, grammar, and the occasional lit class at a small college in Florida. Our governor here is trying to defund scholarships for lib arts students (and remove continuing contract/tenure for lib. arts teachers), so, yes, I see the problem you are describing first hand.

However, I urge you not to kowtow to the neoliberal/predatory capitalist agenda that says that liberal arts studies must be &quot;useful&quot; or &quot;usable&quot; in terms of their own rubric. This is the biggest mistake that colleges in the US have made over the past two decades. The idea that literary theorists -- and what we&#039;re really talking about here are philosophers, by the way, not &quot;literary theorists&quot; --- need to dumb down or despecialize their rhetoric so the uneducated and uninformed can &quot;get it&quot; (whatever &quot;it&quot; is) is a false choice, one that helps the neoliberalist capitalist machine control the narrative. These people would never expect an engineer or a computer programmer or (heaven forfend!) a stockbroker to lucidly explain what it is they do so that a child could understand it---the world is far too complex---so why should literary studies be accountable to a different level of scrutiny?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Ed,<br />
I wrote this post when I was in grad school, almost five years ago. I now teach composition, grammar, and the occasional lit class at a small college in Florida. Our governor here is trying to defund scholarships for lib arts students (and remove continuing contract/tenure for lib. arts teachers), so, yes, I see the problem you are describing first hand.</p>
<p>However, I urge you not to kowtow to the neoliberal/predatory capitalist agenda that says that liberal arts studies must be &#8220;useful&#8221; or &#8220;usable&#8221; in terms of their own rubric. This is the biggest mistake that colleges in the US have made over the past two decades. The idea that literary theorists &#8212; and what we&#8217;re really talking about here are philosophers, by the way, not &#8220;literary theorists&#8221; &#8212; need to dumb down or despecialize their rhetoric so the uneducated and uninformed can &#8220;get it&#8221; (whatever &#8220;it&#8221; is) is a false choice, one that helps the neoliberalist capitalist machine control the narrative. These people would never expect an engineer or a computer programmer or (heaven forfend!) a stockbroker to lucidly explain what it is they do so that a child could understand it&#8212;the world is far too complex&#8212;so why should literary studies be accountable to a different level of scrutiny?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 20:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading over this I come across quite scathingly about lit theory, this isn&#039;t the case. I actually find it pretty fascinating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading over this I come across quite scathingly about lit theory, this isn&#8217;t the case. I actually find it pretty fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 20:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a second year English literature undergraduate I approach this subject with a degree of trepidation. Although I relish in reading a challenging text I am a bit scared by the thought that I might never understand just what the hell these people are talking about. I think that this feeling of intellectual helplessness, coupled with the (I&#039;m not saying I hold this view) impression of these theorists as mere egoistic sophists is not helping the case of the liberal arts student, with regards to both their confidence in the subject and the resulting opinion of the humanities held by others in education and the outside world. But I&#039;m not sure that I care what the outside world thinks, at least to a certain extent. 

Obviously I realise that there is far more to the study of literature than being able to understand a couple of theories, but the celebrity-like status of a few difficult theorists/intellectuals seems to be partly responsible for the decline we are seeing in the liberal arts. I live in Britain so I don&#039;t know how it is wherever you&#039;re from (I&#039;m presuming the USA) but the value of a higher education over here is becoming the acquisition of skills necessary to work in business or assist large corporations in tax avoidance. The liberal arts are becoming irrelevant in the face of this brutal neoliberalism. The increasing competitive &amp; privatised nature of our universities doesn&#039;t help matters as many are now boosting maths/science/business with huge cuts to the humanities departments.

So I do care about the what the outside world thinks when it affects to such an extent my ability to follow an intellectual passion. Maybe the link is more tenuous than I, in my caffeine-deprived state, believe, but, if the sum total of an academic field is big fancy words about nothing, which is how all this can seem to the &#039;uninitiated&#039;, it will certainly not help it&#039;s already financially crippled case. Especially under a Tory government. With all their f*cking prejudices and spin.

I think it&#039;s about time for the obligatory Orwell quote. In &#039;Politics and the English Language&#039; he asserts that clouded speech is &quot;largely the defense of the indefensible&quot;. It seems that, now more than ever, those at the forefront of this field need to make sure that such a quote is not used against them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a second year English literature undergraduate I approach this subject with a degree of trepidation. Although I relish in reading a challenging text I am a bit scared by the thought that I might never understand just what the hell these people are talking about. I think that this feeling of intellectual helplessness, coupled with the (I&#8217;m not saying I hold this view) impression of these theorists as mere egoistic sophists is not helping the case of the liberal arts student, with regards to both their confidence in the subject and the resulting opinion of the humanities held by others in education and the outside world. But I&#8217;m not sure that I care what the outside world thinks, at least to a certain extent. </p>
<p>Obviously I realise that there is far more to the study of literature than being able to understand a couple of theories, but the celebrity-like status of a few difficult theorists/intellectuals seems to be partly responsible for the decline we are seeing in the liberal arts. I live in Britain so I don&#8217;t know how it is wherever you&#8217;re from (I&#8217;m presuming the USA) but the value of a higher education over here is becoming the acquisition of skills necessary to work in business or assist large corporations in tax avoidance. The liberal arts are becoming irrelevant in the face of this brutal neoliberalism. The increasing competitive &amp; privatised nature of our universities doesn&#8217;t help matters as many are now boosting maths/science/business with huge cuts to the humanities departments.</p>
<p>So I do care about the what the outside world thinks when it affects to such an extent my ability to follow an intellectual passion. Maybe the link is more tenuous than I, in my caffeine-deprived state, believe, but, if the sum total of an academic field is big fancy words about nothing, which is how all this can seem to the &#8216;uninitiated&#8217;, it will certainly not help it&#8217;s already financially crippled case. Especially under a Tory government. With all their f*cking prejudices and spin.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s about time for the obligatory Orwell quote. In &#8216;Politics and the English Language&#8217; he asserts that clouded speech is &#8220;largely the defense of the indefensible&#8221;. It seems that, now more than ever, those at the forefront of this field need to make sure that such a quote is not used against them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This made me laugh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This made me laugh</p>
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		<title>By: Biblioklept</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biblioklept]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 14:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This isn&#039;t a &quot;response to Chomsky,&quot; young man. It&#039;s a discussion of Chomsky&#039;s attacks on deconstructionist thinkers. The post made few claims about Chomsky&#039;s pragmatic work as a social activist. New rereadings of texts that have been formative to social structures/ideology is one key to understanding why people might be suffering. I think, also, you know nothing about Derrida if you are suggesting that his work has had no pragmatic work/applications in helping people in very concrete ways.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t a &#8220;response to Chomsky,&#8221; young man. It&#8217;s a discussion of Chomsky&#8217;s attacks on deconstructionist thinkers. The post made few claims about Chomsky&#8217;s pragmatic work as a social activist. New rereadings of texts that have been formative to social structures/ideology is one key to understanding why people might be suffering. I think, also, you know nothing about Derrida if you are suggesting that his work has had no pragmatic work/applications in helping people in very concrete ways.</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[simon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 13:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I suppose you could spend your time reading these works to &quot;uncover the marginalized knowledge.&quot; Or you could, you know, spend your time actually helping people who are suffering around the world and in your local communities. This is the most pitiful response I happen to have seen to Chomsky.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I suppose you could spend your time reading these works to &#8220;uncover the marginalized knowledge.&#8221; Or you could, you know, spend your time actually helping people who are suffering around the world and in your local communities. This is the most pitiful response I happen to have seen to Chomsky.</p>
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		<title>By: Biblioklept</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biblioklept]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 01:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like your last point about how post-structural grammars might be taught -- I think it reiterates the deconstructionist position that there is not a &quot;natural&quot; language / ideology -- and, at the same time, it points out that chomsky&#039;s work has great value in trying to figure out how language (and thus ideology) gets hardwired.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your last point about how post-structural grammars might be taught &#8212; I think it reiterates the deconstructionist position that there is not a &#8220;natural&#8221; language / ideology &#8212; and, at the same time, it points out that chomsky&#8217;s work has great value in trying to figure out how language (and thus ideology) gets hardwired.</p>
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		<title>By: Panurge</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Panurge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 02:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post!  I&#039;d have loved to have heard Derrida speak.  For Christmas in 2003, my wife gave me a hooded sweatshirt that said &quot;Derrida&quot; across the back.  I still wear it regularly.

I am a pretty loyal Chomsky ditto-head, but I think there&#039;s a lot of value in the po-mos.  In fact, it seems that from the generative perspective, it makes perfect sense to believe that some brains mature in ways that make them less able to perceive the world according to the prevailing conventions of language.  These people become the poets, novelists, and philosophers.  They carve out new languages.  It&#039;s a functional necessity for them, and an evolutionary imperative for the species!  

Yeah, I think Derrida was largely incoherent, as is--oh, what&#039;s her name--Spivak.  Foucault I have an easier time with.  But they&#039;re all essentially following in Nietzsche&#039;s footsteps and working out this young language.  They&#039;re trying to express concepts that haven&#039;t been fully formulated yet, but the ideas are in there.  They&#039;re good ideas.  Powerful ideas.  That they appear to be nonsensical is, I think, due to the fact that the neural activity needed to develop the concepts are struggling to survive in a hostile climate.  Teach every 5 year old about poststructuralism, and I guarantee that the resulting generation will have no problem understanding the grammars of Derrida, and will think we&#039;re silly for not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  I&#8217;d have loved to have heard Derrida speak.  For Christmas in 2003, my wife gave me a hooded sweatshirt that said &#8220;Derrida&#8221; across the back.  I still wear it regularly.</p>
<p>I am a pretty loyal Chomsky ditto-head, but I think there&#8217;s a lot of value in the po-mos.  In fact, it seems that from the generative perspective, it makes perfect sense to believe that some brains mature in ways that make them less able to perceive the world according to the prevailing conventions of language.  These people become the poets, novelists, and philosophers.  They carve out new languages.  It&#8217;s a functional necessity for them, and an evolutionary imperative for the species!  </p>
<p>Yeah, I think Derrida was largely incoherent, as is&#8211;oh, what&#8217;s her name&#8211;Spivak.  Foucault I have an easier time with.  But they&#8217;re all essentially following in Nietzsche&#8217;s footsteps and working out this young language.  They&#8217;re trying to express concepts that haven&#8217;t been fully formulated yet, but the ideas are in there.  They&#8217;re good ideas.  Powerful ideas.  That they appear to be nonsensical is, I think, due to the fact that the neural activity needed to develop the concepts are struggling to survive in a hostile climate.  Teach every 5 year old about poststructuralism, and I guarantee that the resulting generation will have no problem understanding the grammars of Derrida, and will think we&#8217;re silly for not.</p>
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		<title>By: Biblioklept</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biblioklept]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 14:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for clearing all of this up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clearing all of this up.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[postmodernism is footnotes to nietzsche. enough said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>postmodernism is footnotes to nietzsche. enough said.</p>
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		<title>By: Biblioklept</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biblioklept]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 15:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Finch, I&#039;m tempted to point out that you misspelled &quot;academia&quot; and leave it at that.
But I&#039;ll bite. 
Your analogy relies on the assumption that Scientology is somehow a cultish form of charlatanism that strongly contrasts &quot;real&quot; or &quot;true&quot; religions. This idea breaks down very quickly under any real scrutiny; as much as we might find Scientology invidious, like all &quot;religions,&quot; its claims and outcomes are based on faith rather than reason--unlike academia, which holds knowledge or information as an objective outcome. The logic of your analogy then, while an amusing piece of sophistry, doesn&#039;t hold any metaphorical water. Indeed, it&#039;s little more than an ad hominem attack that attempts to link &quot;post-structuralism&quot; to &quot;Scientology&quot;--with no real explanation or evidence of this position.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finch, I&#8217;m tempted to point out that you misspelled &#8220;academia&#8221; and leave it at that.<br />
But I&#8217;ll bite.<br />
Your analogy relies on the assumption that Scientology is somehow a cultish form of charlatanism that strongly contrasts &#8220;real&#8221; or &#8220;true&#8221; religions. This idea breaks down very quickly under any real scrutiny; as much as we might find Scientology invidious, like all &#8220;religions,&#8221; its claims and outcomes are based on faith rather than reason&#8211;unlike academia, which holds knowledge or information as an objective outcome. The logic of your analogy then, while an amusing piece of sophistry, doesn&#8217;t hold any metaphorical water. Indeed, it&#8217;s little more than an ad hominem attack that attempts to link &#8220;post-structuralism&#8221; to &#8220;Scientology&#8221;&#8211;with no real explanation or evidence of this position.</p>
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		<title>By: Finch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Finch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 05:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Post-structuralism is to acdemia what scientology is to religion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post-structuralism is to acdemia what scientology is to religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Biblioklept</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biblioklept]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 12:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Fabrice. You&#039;re absolutely right, I think, when you say that &quot;Deconstruction has no priority, nothing on which you can rely&quot;--I think that&#039;s one of its main objectives, to decenter the Platonic ideals that most people accept as foundational. This means that meaning moves in a series of relations without ultimate values, of differance (to use Derrida&#039;s word) instead of a series of relations that always refer back to an ultimate, foundational, fixed value. Derrida points out that this can be frightening, but it&#039;s not nihilistic (as many critics have charged)--it&#039;s actually quite liberating. 
I encourage you to read some of Derrida&#039;s ideas on hospitality, where he discusses how people are to have relations to others (Others) in light of decentered meaning. There&#039;s a nice summary here: http://www.the-philosopher.co.uk/conflict.htm
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&quot;This &#039;impossible&#039; of which Derrida speaks is inseparable from the thinking of justice and from the unconditional hospitality that is required of us. Hospitality focuses on what is most urgent today and the most proper for the articulation of a political ethics of conflict resolution. The unconditional injunction for conflict resolution is: &#039;I have to welcome the Other&#039; - whoever &#039;the Other&#039; is, and unconditionally. For Derrida this means, without asking for a document, a name, a context or a passport. I have to open myself to the Other. I have to open my doors, my house, my home, my language, my culture, my nation, my state and myself. 

This unconditional hospitality is frightening and transgressive, but it takes us beyond the Judeao-Christian understanding of hospitality where we are hospitable because we may be entertaining Elijah or Angels or serving Jesus or dogmatically serving our parishioners. It takes us beyond Kant with his notion of restricted hospitality that says we should welcome the stranger or the foreigner to the extent that they are citizens of another country.  &quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Fabrice. You&#8217;re absolutely right, I think, when you say that &#8220;Deconstruction has no priority, nothing on which you can rely&#8221;&#8211;I think that&#8217;s one of its main objectives, to decenter the Platonic ideals that most people accept as foundational. This means that meaning moves in a series of relations without ultimate values, of differance (to use Derrida&#8217;s word) instead of a series of relations that always refer back to an ultimate, foundational, fixed value. Derrida points out that this can be frightening, but it&#8217;s not nihilistic (as many critics have charged)&#8211;it&#8217;s actually quite liberating.<br />
I encourage you to read some of Derrida&#8217;s ideas on hospitality, where he discusses how people are to have relations to others (Others) in light of decentered meaning. There&#8217;s a nice summary here: <a href="http://www.the-philosopher.co.uk/conflict.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.the-philosopher.co.uk/conflict.htm</a><br />
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&#8220;This &#8216;impossible&#8217; of which Derrida speaks is inseparable from the thinking of justice and from the unconditional hospitality that is required of us. Hospitality focuses on what is most urgent today and the most proper for the articulation of a political ethics of conflict resolution. The unconditional injunction for conflict resolution is: &#8216;I have to welcome the Other&#8217; &#8211; whoever &#8216;the Other&#8217; is, and unconditionally. For Derrida this means, without asking for a document, a name, a context or a passport. I have to open myself to the Other. I have to open my doors, my house, my home, my language, my culture, my nation, my state and myself. </p>
<p>This unconditional hospitality is frightening and transgressive, but it takes us beyond the Judeao-Christian understanding of hospitality where we are hospitable because we may be entertaining Elijah or Angels or serving Jesus or dogmatically serving our parishioners. It takes us beyond Kant with his notion of restricted hospitality that says we should welcome the stranger or the foreigner to the extent that they are citizens of another country.  &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Fabrice</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fabrice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 05:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Sure, Judith Butler is difficult to read. So is the Bible. &quot;

That&#039;s part of the problem : with transforming everything in &quot;text&quot; there&#039;s no difference between Bible and Nature (science), everything is &quot;interpretation&quot; - epistemological relativism. Some religious movements have perfectly understood the message and I doubt that they want to struggle against oppression.

Thus Derrida, contrary to Chomsky, has some bulky allies. So do postmodernism.

There&#039;s another problem, I will be curious of your comments. Deconstruction has no priority, nothing on which you can rely. Deconstruction can fuel itself forever and destroy meaning itself. This is not what Derrida says but that&#039;s on of the consequences he refuses to face. Oppressed need to ally one to each other to get enough strenght against oppression. Deconstruction can very easily be seen as a divide-and-rule policy. It ends in a very narcissist thought

Last problem. Deconstruction is about deconstructing evidence. The oppressed have very oftently a naive representation of the world, they are not well literate, they cannot write books such as Derrida - or as Chomsky. It is very easy to use deconstruction for deconstructing emancipatory claims of the oppressed. 

To my mind there is no criteria, in Derrida&#039;s philosophy, to avoid these consequences. But I certainly will be very interested to know if you disagree]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sure, Judith Butler is difficult to read. So is the Bible. &#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s part of the problem : with transforming everything in &#8220;text&#8221; there&#8217;s no difference between Bible and Nature (science), everything is &#8220;interpretation&#8221; &#8211; epistemological relativism. Some religious movements have perfectly understood the message and I doubt that they want to struggle against oppression.</p>
<p>Thus Derrida, contrary to Chomsky, has some bulky allies. So do postmodernism.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s another problem, I will be curious of your comments. Deconstruction has no priority, nothing on which you can rely. Deconstruction can fuel itself forever and destroy meaning itself. This is not what Derrida says but that&#8217;s on of the consequences he refuses to face. Oppressed need to ally one to each other to get enough strenght against oppression. Deconstruction can very easily be seen as a divide-and-rule policy. It ends in a very narcissist thought</p>
<p>Last problem. Deconstruction is about deconstructing evidence. The oppressed have very oftently a naive representation of the world, they are not well literate, they cannot write books such as Derrida &#8211; or as Chomsky. It is very easy to use deconstruction for deconstructing emancipatory claims of the oppressed. </p>
<p>To my mind there is no criteria, in Derrida&#8217;s philosophy, to avoid these consequences. But I certainly will be very interested to know if you disagree</p>
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		<title>By: Biblioklept</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(This (now three year old) post will haunt me forever)...I haven&#039;t even responded to recent comments here because I don&#039;t really care that much about this issue anymore. But your sarcastic tone has goaded and confused me into responding (for the record, I never implied anywhere on this post or thread that those who disagreed with me did so because they were stupid, ignorant, or benighted).

I&#039;m not sure I understand your argument...I don&#039;t mean that in a combative way. I just am trying to follow it, that&#039;s all. You say that works of literature hold &quot;intrinsic merit&quot; and &quot;aesthetic merit&quot; and seem to suggest (I might be misreading you, sorry) that these values inhere in the works themselves, somehow independent of a reader&#039;s (complex, historical, etc.) value system. 

Lear is the better play because, yes, as you say, it holds &quot;greater aesthetic merit&quot; than Andronicus. But &quot;greater aesthetic merit&quot; is simply a placeholder for &quot;set of specific literary/philosophical/cultural/whatever values&quot; that I acknowledge that I hold. 

I don&#039;t think that the aesthetic criticism of Harold Bloom or James Wood is particularly wrong -- there&#039;s nothing wrong with having an aesthetic response as the basis for a value judgment. And these (and other critics) are able to answer why Lear is a better play than Andronicus -- within, again, their specific, idiosyncratic value systems. Certainly, some value systems are shared by all people, regardless of culture and time -- the need for food, shelter, care, etc.---and Lear&#039;s evocation of these needs (good example, by the way!) resonates all over the world and through time. It&#039;s a great book, no doubt.

But books don&#039;t hold magical inherent properties, aesthetic or otherwise, that exist outside of a relationship with a reader (which necessarily involves all the reader&#039;s ideological baggage). I mean, unless that book happens to be the Bible, the magical words of God Hisself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(This (now three year old) post will haunt me forever)&#8230;I haven&#8217;t even responded to recent comments here because I don&#8217;t really care that much about this issue anymore. But your sarcastic tone has goaded and confused me into responding (for the record, I never implied anywhere on this post or thread that those who disagreed with me did so because they were stupid, ignorant, or benighted).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I understand your argument&#8230;I don&#8217;t mean that in a combative way. I just am trying to follow it, that&#8217;s all. You say that works of literature hold &#8220;intrinsic merit&#8221; and &#8220;aesthetic merit&#8221; and seem to suggest (I might be misreading you, sorry) that these values inhere in the works themselves, somehow independent of a reader&#8217;s (complex, historical, etc.) value system. </p>
<p>Lear is the better play because, yes, as you say, it holds &#8220;greater aesthetic merit&#8221; than Andronicus. But &#8220;greater aesthetic merit&#8221; is simply a placeholder for &#8220;set of specific literary/philosophical/cultural/whatever values&#8221; that I acknowledge that I hold. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that the aesthetic criticism of Harold Bloom or James Wood is particularly wrong &#8212; there&#8217;s nothing wrong with having an aesthetic response as the basis for a value judgment. And these (and other critics) are able to answer why Lear is a better play than Andronicus &#8212; within, again, their specific, idiosyncratic value systems. Certainly, some value systems are shared by all people, regardless of culture and time &#8212; the need for food, shelter, care, etc.&#8212;and Lear&#8217;s evocation of these needs (good example, by the way!) resonates all over the world and through time. It&#8217;s a great book, no doubt.</p>
<p>But books don&#8217;t hold magical inherent properties, aesthetic or otherwise, that exist outside of a relationship with a reader (which necessarily involves all the reader&#8217;s ideological baggage). I mean, unless that book happens to be the Bible, the magical words of God Hisself.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan G.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 21:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please forgive me, but as a mere &#039;common reader,&#039; I found a statement of &#039;bibliokept&#039;s&#039; rather confusing. I know it is just due to my ignorance and stupidity. I am benighted; unlike bibliokept, I have not yet seen the light on the road to the Damascus of literary theory. So when asked, &quot;Just what are the classics, and whose value systems created the notion that the classics were indeed “classic”? a question immediately arose in my mind. Why is it that some of a given writer&#039;s works may be considered as classics (excuse me for omitting the apostrophes), whereas some are not? For example, let us take the most canonical of all canonical writers, Shakespeare. Some of his plays (most obviously Henry VI and Titus Andronicus) are only read because they are by the author of Hamlet, Henry IV, Antony and Cleopatra, etc. That is to say, they are plays by a classic author, but they are not themselves classics. His poem &#039;Venus and Adonis&#039; is not a classic, either. My point in saying all that is to ask this: How, in what manner, do the &quot;classic&quot; works of Shakespeare better accomodate themselves to certain value-systems than do his non-classic works? It is obvious that I am here proceeding on the assumption, implied in what was quoted above (&quot;Just what are the classics, etc.,&quot;), that a work of literature does not become a classic because of any intrinsic merit that it may possess, but rather because it is somehow very congenial to certain &#039;value-systems.&#039; But what is a classic? I say it is a work of literature that is seen as being in some way superior to most other works, and of course that certain classics are seen as being superior to others. But is this superiority intrinsic to the work itself, or granted to it by this or that &#039;value-system?&#039; Those who believe in the latter view, if their view is to be at all coherent, must explain how, of the works of a single author, some may be classics, and some not. Because in this instance, the status of the non-classic works cannot be so easily explained away as being non-canonical by virtue of having been produced by this or that racially, sexually, etc. marginalized member of literary history. I of course believe that King Lear is a classic, whereas Titus Andronicus is not, and that the reason for this is that Lear possesses far greater aesthetic merit than Titus. But someone who believes that a work becomes a classic merely because it is said to be so by someone or something within this or that &#039;value-system&#039; would do very well to explain WHY Lear is a classic, and Titus is not. If this cannot be done, then I can only conclude that most post-modern literary theory is, as an intellectual position, incoherent, and therefore untenable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please forgive me, but as a mere &#8216;common reader,&#8217; I found a statement of &#8216;bibliokept&#8217;s&#8217; rather confusing. I know it is just due to my ignorance and stupidity. I am benighted; unlike bibliokept, I have not yet seen the light on the road to the Damascus of literary theory. So when asked, &#8220;Just what are the classics, and whose value systems created the notion that the classics were indeed “classic”? a question immediately arose in my mind. Why is it that some of a given writer&#8217;s works may be considered as classics (excuse me for omitting the apostrophes), whereas some are not? For example, let us take the most canonical of all canonical writers, Shakespeare. Some of his plays (most obviously Henry VI and Titus Andronicus) are only read because they are by the author of Hamlet, Henry IV, Antony and Cleopatra, etc. That is to say, they are plays by a classic author, but they are not themselves classics. His poem &#8216;Venus and Adonis&#8217; is not a classic, either. My point in saying all that is to ask this: How, in what manner, do the &#8220;classic&#8221; works of Shakespeare better accomodate themselves to certain value-systems than do his non-classic works? It is obvious that I am here proceeding on the assumption, implied in what was quoted above (&#8220;Just what are the classics, etc.,&#8221;), that a work of literature does not become a classic because of any intrinsic merit that it may possess, but rather because it is somehow very congenial to certain &#8216;value-systems.&#8217; But what is a classic? I say it is a work of literature that is seen as being in some way superior to most other works, and of course that certain classics are seen as being superior to others. But is this superiority intrinsic to the work itself, or granted to it by this or that &#8216;value-system?&#8217; Those who believe in the latter view, if their view is to be at all coherent, must explain how, of the works of a single author, some may be classics, and some not. Because in this instance, the status of the non-classic works cannot be so easily explained away as being non-canonical by virtue of having been produced by this or that racially, sexually, etc. marginalized member of literary history. I of course believe that King Lear is a classic, whereas Titus Andronicus is not, and that the reason for this is that Lear possesses far greater aesthetic merit than Titus. But someone who believes that a work becomes a classic merely because it is said to be so by someone or something within this or that &#8216;value-system&#8217; would do very well to explain WHY Lear is a classic, and Titus is not. If this cannot be done, then I can only conclude that most post-modern literary theory is, as an intellectual position, incoherent, and therefore untenable.</p>
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		<title>By: Colin C.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Colin C.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 15:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that labelling Chomsky a &quot;pragmatist&quot; and saying that this explains his anger at Derrida is totally reductive.  In Chomsky&#039;s piece on po-mo, he makes no complaints about the lack of pragmatic value of the movement.  He criticizes the incoherent writing of its foremost advocates.  By the way, a lot of Chomsky&#039;s work (his linguistic work) is highly theoretical and of little practical value to most people.  Yet he IS able to state his central theses in the field with clarity, something apparent if you&#039;ve ever watched any of his interviews on his linguistic work.

I think the post-modernists have a uniquely unfalsifiable philosophical position: if our very modes of rationality are inherently corrupted, then you cannot and should not ask for a rational explanation for why this is the case.  Perfectly convenient for Derrida, who can just go ahead and deconstruct (i.e. poorly misinterpret) previous philosophical works.  You can&#039;t accuse him of going too far, not on his terms.  If there is no set meaning behind the texts (not even a discernable range of possible meanings), how can you say that he is simply wrong?

Some claim that Chomsky is being unfair to Derrida.  I think that Derrida is being unfair to the large majority of the academic community that still has some form of evidentiary standards.  It is possible to &quot;de-center&quot; a text while still adhering to some kind of explanation.  Certainly the Freudian reading of Oedipus, to use an obvious example, profoundly undermines the way that many academics regarded that text in the past.  But the arguments behind this interpretation were still basically coherent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that labelling Chomsky a &#8220;pragmatist&#8221; and saying that this explains his anger at Derrida is totally reductive.  In Chomsky&#8217;s piece on po-mo, he makes no complaints about the lack of pragmatic value of the movement.  He criticizes the incoherent writing of its foremost advocates.  By the way, a lot of Chomsky&#8217;s work (his linguistic work) is highly theoretical and of little practical value to most people.  Yet he IS able to state his central theses in the field with clarity, something apparent if you&#8217;ve ever watched any of his interviews on his linguistic work.</p>
<p>I think the post-modernists have a uniquely unfalsifiable philosophical position: if our very modes of rationality are inherently corrupted, then you cannot and should not ask for a rational explanation for why this is the case.  Perfectly convenient for Derrida, who can just go ahead and deconstruct (i.e. poorly misinterpret) previous philosophical works.  You can&#8217;t accuse him of going too far, not on his terms.  If there is no set meaning behind the texts (not even a discernable range of possible meanings), how can you say that he is simply wrong?</p>
<p>Some claim that Chomsky is being unfair to Derrida.  I think that Derrida is being unfair to the large majority of the academic community that still has some form of evidentiary standards.  It is possible to &#8220;de-center&#8221; a text while still adhering to some kind of explanation.  Certainly the Freudian reading of Oedipus, to use an obvious example, profoundly undermines the way that many academics regarded that text in the past.  But the arguments behind this interpretation were still basically coherent.</p>
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