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	<title>Comments on: Noam Chomsky, Intellectual Elitism, Po-Mo Gibberish, More Attacks on Deconstruction, and Bad Writing Revisited</title>
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		<title>By: dogclouds</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 21:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe Derrida may be an advanced form of thought, futuristic. Chomsky either hasn&#039;t caught up to it as most have not as well, or his own thought WOW THIS GIVES ME A HEADACHE. That said, it is the future. I advise personal investigation of the ideas which can be a long process but in the end probably worth it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Derrida may be an advanced form of thought, futuristic. Chomsky either hasn&#8217;t caught up to it as most have not as well, or his own thought WOW THIS GIVES ME A HEADACHE. That said, it is the future. I advise personal investigation of the ideas which can be a long process but in the end probably worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Panurge</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Panurge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With regards to the cogito, I&#039;m convinced that had Descartes would have come upon a better truth had he kept on conjugating.  But yeah, you shouldn&#039;t be too surprised: it was a great post, and it&#039;s not easy to find a good conversation about Chomsky and postmodernism.  I&#039;m glad it is still alive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regards to the cogito, I&#8217;m convinced that had Descartes would have come upon a better truth had he kept on conjugating.  But yeah, you shouldn&#8217;t be too surprised: it was a great post, and it&#8217;s not easy to find a good conversation about Chomsky and postmodernism.  I&#8217;m glad it is still alive.</p>
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		<title>By: Biblioklept</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biblioklept]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 13:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Josh, I&#039;m largely simpatico with your comment, although I think that there&#039;s more to Derrida and Kristeva and Foucault&#039;s work than an inside joke. I think what infuriates and/or confuses their (non-)readers is the (post-structuralist) decentering always in play. The history of philosophy is full of ridiculous ideas that are nevertheless accepted, or at least rationalized away, over time (think of the cogito ergo sum, for example).

I&#039;m amazed that this post, five years later, still gets so many comments. (Maybe undergrads are still getting assigned Derrida and getting angry and confused?).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, I&#8217;m largely simpatico with your comment, although I think that there&#8217;s more to Derrida and Kristeva and Foucault&#8217;s work than an inside joke. I think what infuriates and/or confuses their (non-)readers is the (post-structuralist) decentering always in play. The history of philosophy is full of ridiculous ideas that are nevertheless accepted, or at least rationalized away, over time (think of the cogito ergo sum, for example).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m amazed that this post, five years later, still gets so many comments. (Maybe undergrads are still getting assigned Derrida and getting angry and confused?).</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 01:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;why is it that every post structuralist/postmodernist seems to ‘understand’ the various cannons of postmodern thought{derrida/focault/lyotard/sartre} and yet when asked to explain what they mean, they all come up with their uniquely nonsensical verbiage to {fail to}explain it.&quot;

No argument here, but the same could be said of things like morality, ethics, metaphysics, love, and so on.  We&#039;re culturally obligated to accept the verbal baggage of any number of nonsensical concepts, and we keep shuffling them around, century after century, pretending the mean things.  I like to think of deconstruction as acknowledging this fact by cracking a long-winded inside joke.  

That said, the Enlightenment gave us a lot of ideas worth studying seriously.  The idea that deconstruction can or should undermine logic and reason is silly.  If I have two apples, and Derrida takes them both from me, I aint got no apples left.  Logic wins small battles.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;why is it that every post structuralist/postmodernist seems to ‘understand’ the various cannons of postmodern thought{derrida/focault/lyotard/sartre} and yet when asked to explain what they mean, they all come up with their uniquely nonsensical verbiage to {fail to}explain it.&#8221;</p>
<p>No argument here, but the same could be said of things like morality, ethics, metaphysics, love, and so on.  We&#8217;re culturally obligated to accept the verbal baggage of any number of nonsensical concepts, and we keep shuffling them around, century after century, pretending the mean things.  I like to think of deconstruction as acknowledging this fact by cracking a long-winded inside joke.  </p>
<p>That said, the Enlightenment gave us a lot of ideas worth studying seriously.  The idea that deconstruction can or should undermine logic and reason is silly.  If I have two apples, and Derrida takes them both from me, I aint got no apples left.  Logic wins small battles.</p>
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		<title>By: ccllyyddee</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 13:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the things I find interesting about this page is that the string of writers managed to stay on target even though most couldn&#039;t identify the bullseye.  Most blogs that I read from today, with &#039;like&#039; boxes and comments sections seem to wander completely away from the original piece after about the third contribution.  What is happening today?  Have &#039;&quot;they&#039;&quot; put something in the drinking water?  

Reading this with morning coffee got my brain juices circulating and my mind up to speed.  I finally found out what deconstructuralism is, philosophically, but can&#039;t apply it to literature.    I thought it was a group of women who denied that men were different from women.  After I find out what Modern is, in terms of literature, then I&#039;ll have the meaning to post-Modern.  I read p-M applied admiringly to an authoress whom I found trite and silly, wooden and unresponsive.  Kind of Danielle Steele with liberal after-effects.

Deconstruction could be a metaphor for particle physics.  Tinier and tinier points, and what are they?  I wonder which philosophical group would &#039;spooky action at a distance&#039; represent.

Maybe post-Modern will be when they throw all physics theory out and go with strings and balloons.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the things I find interesting about this page is that the string of writers managed to stay on target even though most couldn&#8217;t identify the bullseye.  Most blogs that I read from today, with &#8216;like&#8217; boxes and comments sections seem to wander completely away from the original piece after about the third contribution.  What is happening today?  Have &#8216;&#8221;they&#8217;&#8221; put something in the drinking water?  </p>
<p>Reading this with morning coffee got my brain juices circulating and my mind up to speed.  I finally found out what deconstructuralism is, philosophically, but can&#8217;t apply it to literature.    I thought it was a group of women who denied that men were different from women.  After I find out what Modern is, in terms of literature, then I&#8217;ll have the meaning to post-Modern.  I read p-M applied admiringly to an authoress whom I found trite and silly, wooden and unresponsive.  Kind of Danielle Steele with liberal after-effects.</p>
<p>Deconstruction could be a metaphor for particle physics.  Tinier and tinier points, and what are they?  I wonder which philosophical group would &#8216;spooky action at a distance&#8217; represent.</p>
<p>Maybe post-Modern will be when they throw all physics theory out and go with strings and balloons.</p>
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		<title>By: Biblioklept</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biblioklept]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 12:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James, there&#039;s enough venom (and bad spelling and weak arguments) on the internet without you telling me (or anyone who disagrees with you) to jump out a window.
I say this in the nicest possible way: I don&#039;t think you have any idea what you&#039;re talking about. At all. &quot;Postmodernism&quot; is not the same as &quot;deconstruction.&quot; Postmodernism is a word that simply describes &quot;afterModernism.&quot; It&#039;s not a mode or a philosophy or an approach; it&#039;s a description, or, perhaps, a diagnosis.
I&#039;m sorry that some of the thinkers you cite use terms that you find obscure or challenging. The idea that philosophy (particularly philosophy at the end of the twentieth century) should be &quot;simple&quot; is mindboggling to me. Just mindboggling. The idea that philosophy must be utilitarian or must always point to a concrete objective is heartsickening. 

James, your comment here reads like a bad parody of a creaky pastiche of comments trying to attack &quot;postmodernism&quot; culled from other internet sites. It&#039;s probably not worth even responding to, but I&#039;ve chosen to talk to you because I really want to know: Why so angry, James? Did deconstructionists pee in your coffee?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James, there&#8217;s enough venom (and bad spelling and weak arguments) on the internet without you telling me (or anyone who disagrees with you) to jump out a window.<br />
I say this in the nicest possible way: I don&#8217;t think you have any idea what you&#8217;re talking about. At all. &#8220;Postmodernism&#8221; is not the same as &#8220;deconstruction.&#8221; Postmodernism is a word that simply describes &#8220;afterModernism.&#8221; It&#8217;s not a mode or a philosophy or an approach; it&#8217;s a description, or, perhaps, a diagnosis.<br />
I&#8217;m sorry that some of the thinkers you cite use terms that you find obscure or challenging. The idea that philosophy (particularly philosophy at the end of the twentieth century) should be &#8220;simple&#8221; is mindboggling to me. Just mindboggling. The idea that philosophy must be utilitarian or must always point to a concrete objective is heartsickening. </p>
<p>James, your comment here reads like a bad parody of a creaky pastiche of comments trying to attack &#8220;postmodernism&#8221; culled from other internet sites. It&#8217;s probably not worth even responding to, but I&#8217;ve chosen to talk to you because I really want to know: Why so angry, James? Did deconstructionists pee in your coffee?</p>
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		<title>By: optiontradingjames</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 05:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[why is it that every post structuralist/postmodernist seems to &#039;understand&#039; the various cannons of postmodern thought{derrida/focault/lyotard/sartre} and yet when asked to explain what they mean, they all come up with their uniquely nonsensical verbiage to {fail to}explain it. understanding would imply a transmission of concepts, transmission of concepts would imply similarity in explanations. this obscurantism is important for posmodernists it seems, because without it, they would be seen to be saying very little, if anything of substance. the conclusion that i draw from this is that postmodernists dont realy &#039;understand&#039; other postmodernists at all{the Sokal Hoax proved this} but delude themselves and others into thinking that they understand other postmodernists. there is no transmission of concepts, and no progress{when was the last time a postmodernist invented something useful or discovered a physical law that was observably true?}. just an annoying collective noise against the ideas of the enlightenment as that very enlightenment allowed talentless upperclass idiots to sit in their houses, do nothing, and use the phenomenon of mechanization and technology to create resources{without which they wouldnt have time to &#039;heuristically deconstruct discourse&#039; or whatever, as they worked on the fields}, and the prevelence of informations technology{which again came out of the enlightenment ideals} to infect large parts of other talentless literary hacks around the world into beleiving that the enlightenment was fallacious and that cultural reletevism is reasonable or that a &#039;postmodern&#039; grammer free of any rules will liberate woman or watever.

honestly, try to deconstruct gravity as you jump out of your window!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why is it that every post structuralist/postmodernist seems to &#8216;understand&#8217; the various cannons of postmodern thought{derrida/focault/lyotard/sartre} and yet when asked to explain what they mean, they all come up with their uniquely nonsensical verbiage to {fail to}explain it. understanding would imply a transmission of concepts, transmission of concepts would imply similarity in explanations. this obscurantism is important for posmodernists it seems, because without it, they would be seen to be saying very little, if anything of substance. the conclusion that i draw from this is that postmodernists dont realy &#8216;understand&#8217; other postmodernists at all{the Sokal Hoax proved this} but delude themselves and others into thinking that they understand other postmodernists. there is no transmission of concepts, and no progress{when was the last time a postmodernist invented something useful or discovered a physical law that was observably true?}. just an annoying collective noise against the ideas of the enlightenment as that very enlightenment allowed talentless upperclass idiots to sit in their houses, do nothing, and use the phenomenon of mechanization and technology to create resources{without which they wouldnt have time to &#8216;heuristically deconstruct discourse&#8217; or whatever, as they worked on the fields}, and the prevelence of informations technology{which again came out of the enlightenment ideals} to infect large parts of other talentless literary hacks around the world into beleiving that the enlightenment was fallacious and that cultural reletevism is reasonable or that a &#8216;postmodern&#8217; grammer free of any rules will liberate woman or watever.</p>
<p>honestly, try to deconstruct gravity as you jump out of your window!</p>
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		<title>By: Biblioklept</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biblioklept]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 15:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, Ed,
I wrote this post when I was in grad school, almost five years ago. I now teach composition, grammar, and the occasional lit class at a small college in Florida. Our governor here is trying to defund scholarships for lib arts students (and remove continuing contract/tenure for lib. arts teachers), so, yes, I see the problem you are describing first hand.

However, I urge you not to kowtow to the neoliberal/predatory capitalist agenda that says that liberal arts studies must be &quot;useful&quot; or &quot;usable&quot; in terms of their own rubric. This is the biggest mistake that colleges in the US have made over the past two decades. The idea that literary theorists -- and what we&#039;re really talking about here are philosophers, by the way, not &quot;literary theorists&quot; --- need to dumb down or despecialize their rhetoric so the uneducated and uninformed can &quot;get it&quot; (whatever &quot;it&quot; is) is a false choice, one that helps the neoliberalist capitalist machine control the narrative. These people would never expect an engineer or a computer programmer or (heaven forfend!) a stockbroker to lucidly explain what it is they do so that a child could understand it---the world is far too complex---so why should literary studies be accountable to a different level of scrutiny?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Ed,<br />
I wrote this post when I was in grad school, almost five years ago. I now teach composition, grammar, and the occasional lit class at a small college in Florida. Our governor here is trying to defund scholarships for lib arts students (and remove continuing contract/tenure for lib. arts teachers), so, yes, I see the problem you are describing first hand.</p>
<p>However, I urge you not to kowtow to the neoliberal/predatory capitalist agenda that says that liberal arts studies must be &#8220;useful&#8221; or &#8220;usable&#8221; in terms of their own rubric. This is the biggest mistake that colleges in the US have made over the past two decades. The idea that literary theorists &#8212; and what we&#8217;re really talking about here are philosophers, by the way, not &#8220;literary theorists&#8221; &#8212; need to dumb down or despecialize their rhetoric so the uneducated and uninformed can &#8220;get it&#8221; (whatever &#8220;it&#8221; is) is a false choice, one that helps the neoliberalist capitalist machine control the narrative. These people would never expect an engineer or a computer programmer or (heaven forfend!) a stockbroker to lucidly explain what it is they do so that a child could understand it&#8212;the world is far too complex&#8212;so why should literary studies be accountable to a different level of scrutiny?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 20:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Reading over this I come across quite scathingly about lit theory, this isn&#039;t the case. I actually find it pretty fascinating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading over this I come across quite scathingly about lit theory, this isn&#8217;t the case. I actually find it pretty fascinating.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 20:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a second year English literature undergraduate I approach this subject with a degree of trepidation. Although I relish in reading a challenging text I am a bit scared by the thought that I might never understand just what the hell these people are talking about. I think that this feeling of intellectual helplessness, coupled with the (I&#039;m not saying I hold this view) impression of these theorists as mere egoistic sophists is not helping the case of the liberal arts student, with regards to both their confidence in the subject and the resulting opinion of the humanities held by others in education and the outside world. But I&#039;m not sure that I care what the outside world thinks, at least to a certain extent. 

Obviously I realise that there is far more to the study of literature than being able to understand a couple of theories, but the celebrity-like status of a few difficult theorists/intellectuals seems to be partly responsible for the decline we are seeing in the liberal arts. I live in Britain so I don&#039;t know how it is wherever you&#039;re from (I&#039;m presuming the USA) but the value of a higher education over here is becoming the acquisition of skills necessary to work in business or assist large corporations in tax avoidance. The liberal arts are becoming irrelevant in the face of this brutal neoliberalism. The increasing competitive &amp; privatised nature of our universities doesn&#039;t help matters as many are now boosting maths/science/business with huge cuts to the humanities departments.

So I do care about the what the outside world thinks when it affects to such an extent my ability to follow an intellectual passion. Maybe the link is more tenuous than I, in my caffeine-deprived state, believe, but, if the sum total of an academic field is big fancy words about nothing, which is how all this can seem to the &#039;uninitiated&#039;, it will certainly not help it&#039;s already financially crippled case. Especially under a Tory government. With all their f*cking prejudices and spin.

I think it&#039;s about time for the obligatory Orwell quote. In &#039;Politics and the English Language&#039; he asserts that clouded speech is &quot;largely the defense of the indefensible&quot;. It seems that, now more than ever, those at the forefront of this field need to make sure that such a quote is not used against them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a second year English literature undergraduate I approach this subject with a degree of trepidation. Although I relish in reading a challenging text I am a bit scared by the thought that I might never understand just what the hell these people are talking about. I think that this feeling of intellectual helplessness, coupled with the (I&#8217;m not saying I hold this view) impression of these theorists as mere egoistic sophists is not helping the case of the liberal arts student, with regards to both their confidence in the subject and the resulting opinion of the humanities held by others in education and the outside world. But I&#8217;m not sure that I care what the outside world thinks, at least to a certain extent. </p>
<p>Obviously I realise that there is far more to the study of literature than being able to understand a couple of theories, but the celebrity-like status of a few difficult theorists/intellectuals seems to be partly responsible for the decline we are seeing in the liberal arts. I live in Britain so I don&#8217;t know how it is wherever you&#8217;re from (I&#8217;m presuming the USA) but the value of a higher education over here is becoming the acquisition of skills necessary to work in business or assist large corporations in tax avoidance. The liberal arts are becoming irrelevant in the face of this brutal neoliberalism. The increasing competitive &amp; privatised nature of our universities doesn&#8217;t help matters as many are now boosting maths/science/business with huge cuts to the humanities departments.</p>
<p>So I do care about the what the outside world thinks when it affects to such an extent my ability to follow an intellectual passion. Maybe the link is more tenuous than I, in my caffeine-deprived state, believe, but, if the sum total of an academic field is big fancy words about nothing, which is how all this can seem to the &#8216;uninitiated&#8217;, it will certainly not help it&#8217;s already financially crippled case. Especially under a Tory government. With all their f*cking prejudices and spin.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s about time for the obligatory Orwell quote. In &#8216;Politics and the English Language&#8217; he asserts that clouded speech is &#8220;largely the defense of the indefensible&#8221;. It seems that, now more than ever, those at the forefront of this field need to make sure that such a quote is not used against them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ed]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 18:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This made me laugh]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This made me laugh</p>
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		<title>By: Biblioklept</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biblioklept]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 14:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This isn&#039;t a &quot;response to Chomsky,&quot; young man. It&#039;s a discussion of Chomsky&#039;s attacks on deconstructionist thinkers. The post made few claims about Chomsky&#039;s pragmatic work as a social activist. New rereadings of texts that have been formative to social structures/ideology is one key to understanding why people might be suffering. I think, also, you know nothing about Derrida if you are suggesting that his work has had no pragmatic work/applications in helping people in very concrete ways.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t a &#8220;response to Chomsky,&#8221; young man. It&#8217;s a discussion of Chomsky&#8217;s attacks on deconstructionist thinkers. The post made few claims about Chomsky&#8217;s pragmatic work as a social activist. New rereadings of texts that have been formative to social structures/ideology is one key to understanding why people might be suffering. I think, also, you know nothing about Derrida if you are suggesting that his work has had no pragmatic work/applications in helping people in very concrete ways.</p>
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		<title>By: simon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[simon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jul 2011 13:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, I suppose you could spend your time reading these works to &quot;uncover the marginalized knowledge.&quot; Or you could, you know, spend your time actually helping people who are suffering around the world and in your local communities. This is the most pitiful response I happen to have seen to Chomsky.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I suppose you could spend your time reading these works to &#8220;uncover the marginalized knowledge.&#8221; Or you could, you know, spend your time actually helping people who are suffering around the world and in your local communities. This is the most pitiful response I happen to have seen to Chomsky.</p>
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		<title>By: Biblioklept</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biblioklept]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 01:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like your last point about how post-structural grammars might be taught -- I think it reiterates the deconstructionist position that there is not a &quot;natural&quot; language / ideology -- and, at the same time, it points out that chomsky&#039;s work has great value in trying to figure out how language (and thus ideology) gets hardwired.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like your last point about how post-structural grammars might be taught &#8212; I think it reiterates the deconstructionist position that there is not a &#8220;natural&#8221; language / ideology &#8212; and, at the same time, it points out that chomsky&#8217;s work has great value in trying to figure out how language (and thus ideology) gets hardwired.</p>
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		<title>By: Panurge</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Panurge]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 02:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post!  I&#039;d have loved to have heard Derrida speak.  For Christmas in 2003, my wife gave me a hooded sweatshirt that said &quot;Derrida&quot; across the back.  I still wear it regularly.

I am a pretty loyal Chomsky ditto-head, but I think there&#039;s a lot of value in the po-mos.  In fact, it seems that from the generative perspective, it makes perfect sense to believe that some brains mature in ways that make them less able to perceive the world according to the prevailing conventions of language.  These people become the poets, novelists, and philosophers.  They carve out new languages.  It&#039;s a functional necessity for them, and an evolutionary imperative for the species!  

Yeah, I think Derrida was largely incoherent, as is--oh, what&#039;s her name--Spivak.  Foucault I have an easier time with.  But they&#039;re all essentially following in Nietzsche&#039;s footsteps and working out this young language.  They&#039;re trying to express concepts that haven&#039;t been fully formulated yet, but the ideas are in there.  They&#039;re good ideas.  Powerful ideas.  That they appear to be nonsensical is, I think, due to the fact that the neural activity needed to develop the concepts are struggling to survive in a hostile climate.  Teach every 5 year old about poststructuralism, and I guarantee that the resulting generation will have no problem understanding the grammars of Derrida, and will think we&#039;re silly for not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post!  I&#8217;d have loved to have heard Derrida speak.  For Christmas in 2003, my wife gave me a hooded sweatshirt that said &#8220;Derrida&#8221; across the back.  I still wear it regularly.</p>
<p>I am a pretty loyal Chomsky ditto-head, but I think there&#8217;s a lot of value in the po-mos.  In fact, it seems that from the generative perspective, it makes perfect sense to believe that some brains mature in ways that make them less able to perceive the world according to the prevailing conventions of language.  These people become the poets, novelists, and philosophers.  They carve out new languages.  It&#8217;s a functional necessity for them, and an evolutionary imperative for the species!  </p>
<p>Yeah, I think Derrida was largely incoherent, as is&#8211;oh, what&#8217;s her name&#8211;Spivak.  Foucault I have an easier time with.  But they&#8217;re all essentially following in Nietzsche&#8217;s footsteps and working out this young language.  They&#8217;re trying to express concepts that haven&#8217;t been fully formulated yet, but the ideas are in there.  They&#8217;re good ideas.  Powerful ideas.  That they appear to be nonsensical is, I think, due to the fact that the neural activity needed to develop the concepts are struggling to survive in a hostile climate.  Teach every 5 year old about poststructuralism, and I guarantee that the resulting generation will have no problem understanding the grammars of Derrida, and will think we&#8217;re silly for not.</p>
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		<title>By: Biblioklept</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Biblioklept]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 14:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for clearing all of this up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clearing all of this up.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[postmodernism is footnotes to nietzsche. enough said.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>postmodernism is footnotes to nietzsche. enough said.</p>
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